Aston Martin Valkyrie (2021)

[rafal345]

Wow,  Aston Martin oprócz sponsorowania Red Bulla będzie razem z nim przygotowywać hipersamochód "nowej generacji".

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153712659783355&substory_index=0&id=15678718354
https://www.astonmartin.com/en/live/news/2016/03/17/aston-martin-and-red-bull-racing-to-create-next-generation-hypercar

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News: Aston Martin AM-RB 001 - Rozpierająca energia.



Zapraszamy do komentowania i dzielenia się wrażeniami.

[DanielAquarius]

Podobno na torze samochód ma być szybszy niż bolid F1.

[rafal345]

Ciężko mi w to uwierzyć, na pewno nie byłby to wtedy hipersamochód a pewnie coś pokroju RB X2014 z Gran Turismo

[Ecnelis]

Po ogłoszeniu współpracy z Red Bullem niektórych w internecie poniosła fantazja i nie tylko takie rewelacje można przeczytać. Jeśli to ma być samochód drogowy, a nie coś kosmicznego pokroju Vulcana czy właśnie wizji z Gran Turismo czy czegoś w stylu LMP1 o nieograniczonej mocy to nie widzę szans na nawet zbliżenie się osiągami do najszybszych samochodów torowych (pomijając to, co dokładnie miałoby się kryć pod pojęciem "osiągi" - przyspieszenie do 100/200/300 km/h, czas na torze, elastyczność, hamulce, stosunek mocy do masy, przeciążenia, liczba udostępnień na Twitterze i Facebooku?).

A szkic wypuścili taki, że w pierwszej kolejności kojarzy mi się z...
https://autogen.pl/car-511-Auto-Union-Type-C-Streamliner.html

[rafal345]

W sumie te osiągi lepsze niż F1 nie są takie z powietrza, ale tu konkretnie chodzi o czas na Silverstone
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/aston-martin-and-red-bull-hypercar-could-be-faster-f1-car-around-silverstone

Nadal ciężko mi to sobie wyobrazić (tak samo Ron Dennis chwalił się że McLaren P1 ma być szybszy od samochodów GT3) ale zobaczymy.

[Feanor]

Ciężko wyobrazić sobie coś szybszego od F1 i jeżdżącego po publicznych drogach legalnie...

[Ecnelis]

Newey i Reichman na temat AM-RB 001 dla magazynu "AutoCar":

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/adrian-newey-and-marek-reichman-am-rb-001-hypercar

AM-RB 001 ma być szybszy niż bolid F1... ale tylko dlatego, że oprócz wersji drogowej będzie dostępna ekstremalna wersja torowa.

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Wersja drogowa:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE56wC3u0Kn/

Wersja torowa:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEcyXFGMMy-/

[Ecnelis]

Prezentacja konceptu: Aston Martin AM-RB 001.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs8mvvccgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ISsEKcl88

[rafal345]

Wygląda absurdalnie poważnie i na pewno zmiażdży wszystko, co do tej pory miało czelność nazwać się hiper- lub megasamochodem, ale uwierzę w pobicie tempa F1 dopiero, gdy to zobaczę.

Ogólnie bardzo mi się podoba, ale też sprawia, że coraz bardziej zastanawiam się nad sensem wypuszczania takich samochodów na publiczne drogi.

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News: Aston Martin AM-RB 001 - To dzieje się naprawdę.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEKDDcbJ5Gs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37AjQ1_EKn4

Zapraszamy do komentowania i dzielenia się wrażeniami.

[Feanor]

Zapowiada się istny nokaut w świecie hiperaut!

[rafal345]

Aston Martin RB 001

Hyper Car or Hyper Story?

On the cover of one of the UKs weekly car magazines it says "NEW ASTON HYPERCAR – How F1 legend Adrian Newey has changed road cars for ever" – in 2014 Eighty two point eight million cars were produced around the World, that is 82,800,000, or 156 cars every minute; the sales of ultra high performance cars each year are probably around 20,000 of which it is suggested that the AM-RB 001 will add a further 13 cars. 99 road cars and 24 track cars in total. How will these 99 cars 'change road cars forever?

Loss making car company Aston Martin, having cut 300 jobs in 2015 to counter loses of £58.3 million in that financial year, promises that this new model will be on sale in 2018; that is just 24 months away. CEO Andy Palmer says that the AM-RB 001 "will lap Silverstone's Grand Prix circuit as fast as an F1 car"; this is quite some claim for a car whose engine, said to be a normally aspirated V12, is to be a totally new design and whose energy capture technology is yet to be decided. A LMP1 car at Silverstone earlier this year recorded a lap of 1min 39.658 seconds in Practice and 1' 42.182" in the race, Formula One cars will almost certainly break the 1' 30" barrier at this years F1 Grand Prix so the AM-RB 001 will need to be seriously quick. The weight of a current LMP1 car is in excess of 850kg, and the weight of a current F1 car cannot be less  than 702kg; by comparison the La Ferrari weights 1255kg whilst the McLaren P1 weights 1450kg, the Porsche 918 is heavier at 1640kg. All three of these cars has a hybrid ERS or 'Energy Recovery System' which with batteries, controllers and motors add considerably to the weight of the cars. The AM-RB 001 is expected to weigh 1000kg, we shall see.

So does it really matter if Palmer is just a little bit optimistic? Probably not if the car is stunning looking, great for cruising the Mediterranean coast roads of France, capable of making a grand entrance at the casino and delivering its beautiful occupants in an elegant manner. What is new about the look of the car that we have not seen a hundred times in design student's final shows, for example the work of both Ruben Aly De Belle and James Shaw from Swansea School of Art; not a lot. The images that have been released to the World of the AM-RB 001 show a rather bland upper surface in a dull grey yet ultra shiny finish with unbelievably simplistic suggestions of what the head and tail lights may be, and a bubble top that has been seen a dozen times from other manufacturers. The dark grey, or 'Newey' bits are interesting but nowhere near as dramatic as can be seen on 'proper' race cars. The surfacing on the upper body ranges from competent to unresolved, and there are far too many lines that appear and then just as rapidly disappear; for example around the front corners and behind the front wheel opening. The panel connecting the front wheel housing to the body has a curious kink in it and rapidly becomes alarmingly weak looking as it attaches to the wheel housing, some of these elements look as if they came from different hands.

I have the same thoughts about the AM-RB 001 as I do about the Glikenhaus SCG 003, if a company wants to build a LMP1 car then build one.  I can't help feeling that road cars and race cars are two totally seperate machines; either do a proper LMP1 race car and see how you get on against Porsche, Audi and Toyota, or do a wonderful road car that grabs people becase of its sheer beauty.

The compromises necessary to produce a cross between the two will make a poor racecar with challenging interior space and a performance envelope that will require very high levels of skill to extract anything like its true performance. Don't forget that of the 90 Le Mans drivers, if we include LMP2s, not all those guys are that brilliant; that's why they crash

Sure it's easy to criticise a car like this that will cost between £2 and £3 million pounds (that leaves plenty of latitude for change!) and 'lap Silverstone as fast as an F1 car' but people who will spend that much money on a car deserve the very, very best and Aston Martin has not got there yet. Palmer qualifies the look of the car by saying that some changes are likely before the car goes into production, that's good news.

[Ecnelis]

Miałem właśnie to linkować. Oryginalny post Petera Stevensa (na swoim profilu FB zamieszcza regularnie ciekawe przemyślenia i analizy odnośnie samochodowego wzornictwa dziś i kiedyś): https://www.facebook.com/PeterStevensDesign/posts/1231514043548260